Homemade FFM Liner

Discussion in 'Sleep Apnea & CPAP Users Forum' started by Dimity, Apr 27, 2017.

  1. Dimity

    Dimity New Member

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    I am thinking of finding some alternative to the liners I am buying for my full face CPAP mask. Wonder if anyone has tried to create a homemade ffm liner that works? I know that saves money but more importantly I would then be able to make it my way and hopefully get a better fit without huge leakages.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. LordVold

    LordVold New Member

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    I use a Resmed Airlift F10 full face mask. I am often woken up in the night by what it seems to be the mask trying to blow itself off the face. That could be caused by the muscles on my face relaxing and the moisture trapped inside the mask. A good mask liner can help prevent this from happening.

    I made different types of liners for my mask. At first I made triangular liners with an elastic band at the back. Also some T shirt liners that go between the face and the mask. Now I found a much better way of making an FFM liner with which I got a perfect mask fit.

    I started with a pair of cotton ankle socks with their ankle opening a bit wider than usual (you could buy them at the nearby dollar store). I cut out some three inches from the top of the sock to get a short tube having elastic band at its top. Then, stretching the elastic band I fitted it on the mouth of the mask. That holds it in place. Finally, I pulled the cotton part around the silicone and just tucked it in. And voila! I got a comfortable homemade ffm liner. It doesn't move around even. You can try making one at home. It worked for me.
     
  3. katelyn823

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    Thank you for a great idea, @LordVold

    I have been using an AirSense 10 Autoset CPAP with Resmed F10 full face mask. But leaks are not bothering me that much, rather it's the mask creeping up the nose every time I change positions. That gives me an irritation around the bridge of my nose. Maybe the silicone cushion deflates and the hard plastic then touches the bridge of my nose. Adjusting the F10 straps doesn't help either.

    I ordered a P10 now and I am waiting for it. Meanwhile I will try to make a liner for my mask like you did. Let me see if that solves my problem.
     
  4. AIdAn

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    I don't have any leak problems but all the same, I will try this and see. Thanks, @
     
  5. erwin

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    When I saw this post, I was really excited at the idea. I had to try it. I made one like explained here. It feels good: very soft and comfy. But that was just about it. The mask had a persistent leak and I am clueless how to adjust the position or tighten the straps to stop that. Sadly, it failed to work for me. Maybe I did not do it right?
     
  6. bianca

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    I have found online what is said to be a template for a DIY full face cotton mask liner.
     
  7. Miley

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    I am a sleep specialist. Recently, I have seen someone describe how he makes a liner with new baby wipes by folding them lengthwise. He says he uses the unscented type after drying them out. He makes a slit so it fits at the bridge of the mask. And oh yes, you can make a pattern such as remzzz cut out even. I made one and gave to one of my patients. The patient has a Quattro and complains of a sore at the bridge. I will get feedback soon and see how it's working for him.
     
  8. Allyson

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    Thank you very much for the template, @bianca

    I am using a Mirage Micro nasal mask. I am hoping that if I make a DIY liner for it, it will fit easily. There is plenty flannel material around here that will be enough for lots of liners to make. I have so much of it I could have disposable liners! Let me try today. I am going to need a smaller liner than the template size though. Let me see how it comes off. Btw, how can I make it stay in place after fitting to the mask? Do I have to fit it every time I put on my mask?
     
  9. JILlIan

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    I use a hybrid CPAP full face mask, nose pillows and headgear.

    I have been using soft, thin cotton panties that have been washed thoroughly. I put the cloth on the mask to cut out around the mask edges with a bit of extra space. Starting with a small hole, I adjust its size until I have it big enough for me. I find them good for use many times over but sometimes my cat steals one and I will have to make a new one.
     
  10. Gelicider

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    The masks I use regularly are the Respironics ComfortLite 2 and the Everest Headrest. I have no problems and don't need a liner when I use either of them. However, when I have URTI, I use my Zzz-Mask Full Face CPAP Mask and that's when I definitely have problems and I need the liner. As it is, a full face mask gets my claustrophobia going. On top of that, I just can't stand a lot of plastic on my face, and the sweat.

    I took a print of the ZZZ-mask fitting guide with an extra inch or so all around. Added a hole for the nose and there, I got my liner. No more sweat!
     
  11. Jorge

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    I was the "someone" :) I clean the mask with the wipe and then use scissors to make the pattern in it. One right angled triangle on the fold takes care of the nose and mouth. Another equilateral triangle a little higher up on the open edge is for the eyes. Then I open out the wet wipe. With its seal facing up, I lay it on the mask. The wipe is even good for a second use the next night (it would be dry then).

    This has been working fine for me.
     
  12. yellow-belly

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    Any chance of using them with nasal prongs? It's pretty complicated trying to fit a cloth around them. I use the original Swift pillow and the Hybrid alternately. They both have nasal prongs. I use tape on my mouth when I am using the Swift pillow but even then there are large leaks. Maybe I need to use caulk around the prongs or what!
     
  13. MikeWest

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    Ask your DME for a sample RemZzzs for your mask. You could even buy a starter pack. If you find them to your liking, keep one for specimen. Get some cheap T shirt material for a couple dollars from the fabric store. Now use the sample you have as a template to make your liners. I do it that way and I find it makes great mask liners for me. Remember that the fabric thickness makes a big difference. Go for the cheaper fabric. Either all cotton or half and half should be fine.
     
  14. crosby

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    I tried the method, made some liners last night and used them with my mask. It stopped the leaks for sure. But every time I take off my mask, the liner would drop off from it and then I can't even find it again! I am going to try again though, this time around with T shirt fabric. I could even use coffee filters instead. I have lots of them and they are not the right size for my coffee maker anyway.
     

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